Recommendations for replacing Yahoo email?

Discussion in 'Email Discussions' started by jagman, Mar 10, 2014.

  1. jagman

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    I have had my Yahoo email for about a decade. I have not survived Marissa Meyer and her changes. I have come to hate Yahoo email. trying to locate commands, the "no manual save drafts" has cost me work and data loss.
    About 10 years ago, I did an comparison of Gmail, Hotmail and Yahoo and Yahoo came out HANDS down the best and why I was happy with it for so many years and recommended to all my friends. Then, Marissa changed it and would not allow up to stay on what we loved and was familiar with. WE HAD to use the new version and thousands of us complained but were ignored.
    I am ready to give up on Yahoo and move on.
    Trying to find a new provider of free emails.

    ANYONE out there find anything lke the old Yahoo, with the 'cluttered" look?
    Lots of Commands, not hidden, or removed? Emails you can read from top to bottom to follow the "thread" of the conversation, without all the hidden stuff. Melissa loves he CLEAN look, and I hate the CLEAN look.
    When i need to do something, I don't want to search and look for the command.
    Email for experienced users and not the current "dumbing down" for the lite occasional, inexperenced users ?
    Would appreciate any recommendations.
    I tried Gmail but it is spammed so bad that everyday it fills up so I abandoned it. Yahoo does have an effective SPAM filter.
     


  2. popowich

    popowich EQ Forum Admin Staff Member

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    I still prefer Gmail. The Gmail spam filters don't catch your spam and deliver it to the spam folder?

    Some Yahoo users who are looking for a stable interface that doesn't change mentioned Safe Mail.

    Outlook.com (the new Hotmail) has a new interface but it sounds like that one might be too dumbed down for you too?

    Fastmail is another free email service that didn't get mentioned above.

    If you don't mind picking up "free" email hosting with paid web hosting service other popular options include Blue Host and LuxSci.
     

  3. foggy

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    Not being sure of what your needs are besides the ones you mentioned (e.g. Do you need a lot of storage? Are there other features you require? Etc.), I can only add two things:

    1. If you insist on a free service, you might at least want to look into Vivaldi. Even before MyOpera closed its email service, former Opera employees started the Vivaldi site, which includes forums, blogs, and email. The webmail is RoundCube, which you may or may not have heard of or used. But since it costs nothing to find out - and there's an active forum available there if you have any questions - you might want to sign up and test it out.

    2. If it's only the webmail interface that bothers you about Yahoo, you could try some of the offline email clients (Windows Live Mail, Thunderbird, etc.) and see if they do what you're looking for. From what I understand the Zimbra email client works well with Yahoo and was developed (or bought?) by Yahoo itself. That way you could keep your Yahoo address but have an interface perhaps more to your liking. But, of course, an offline client would also work with Outlook, Gmail, and Vivaldi.

    Re: FastMail mentioned by Ray, though they used to offer free accounts, I believe they no longer offer such. See their updated pricing table here.
     
  4. jagman

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    Great suggestions. THANKS!!!!!
    Of the ones you suggested, I should have stated, before the internet, we used Microsoft emails on our servers but when the internet came, and for home use, we had the choice of always viewing our emails on our PCs and did not have to download to our PC unless we used the Microsoft clients.

    Then Gmail and Yahoo were great as they could:
    1. Give us protection and we did not have to back them up or store them.
    2. Friends of mine that kept using Outlook, etc, had to download emails to their PCs and store and maintain them. They ran into lots of issues, upgrades to Outlook, would not read old emails, etc and became incapable very fast. Constantly I got calls asking how to convert their old emails to the new clients.

    Can I assume the ones you suggesting are retained on their servers so all we have to do is read them from their servers like Yahoo and Gmail?

    Do you know if any of them are "simuliar" to the old Yahoo Classic?

    I use most of my communications with phone with a wire, and emails.
    Not just burst of "code/text" but most of my email could be called "detailed/wordy" with hyperlinks, attachments, etc.
    the feature missed the most of Yahoo was the "SAVE DRAFT" manually if you were composing an email. This auto-save has lost most of my drafts if I was interrupted. I hate to have to use notepad to compose my emails in different sessions.
    :hammer:
     
  5. foggy

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    jagman,

    For whatever reason, it seems that when one company starts doing something, they all do — even to the point that they will sometimes abandon what they were doing in order to concentrate on their 'new' thing. Hence, Gmail, Yahoo, AOL and Outlook all introducing their new interfaces and ultimately dropping their older ones that most users didn't want to lose (as in your case). (Gmail does still have a "basic html" option, I believe, but it may not have what you're looking for.) Result: it may be hard to find a free webmail client that has many of the functions viewable on its interface because the above-mentioned providers are too busy competing with one another than listening to their users. :rolleyes:

    There are some webmail interfaces (like OpenWebMail, SquirrelMail, Horde, Group Office, Roundcube) that may have the kind of visible functions you want, though I don't know how good they are at showing 'conversations.' And I think they all allow turning off 'auto-save.' Since Vivaldi is free, there's no harm in signing up for an account there and test-driving its Roundcube interface to see if it has what you're looking for.

    As for the other interfaces, I only know of them being available at premium email services. E.g. Eumx.net ($16/yr) has Squirrelmail, Group Office, Roundcube, Horde and OpenWebMail; PolarisMail has Squirrelmail, Roundcube, Horde and AtMail. PolarisMail's basic account is $1/month with excellent customer support and a choice of several interfaces or using your own email client! VFemail has a very small free level (perhaps you could sign up for this for testing purposes) and similarly inexpensive account levels. Also, FastMail and Runbox have account levels below $20/yr.

    Many people balk at the idea pf paying for email. But consider that you can have a year's worth of service — including personal customer support! — for less than the cost of ONE home-delivered pizza. Depends on how important email is to someone, I guess. Just something you might want to think about. :)

    Also, I don't know if I'm misunderstanding something you said — and I'm not sure how much you know about these things (you may know a lot more than I!) — but just to clarify: Using an offline client won't mean that you won't have to have any emails on the provider's servers. In fact, by setting up an IMAP account in a downloadable email client, you will have your email 'mirrored' in both locations: on the servers and on your computer. If anything were to happen to your computer - or if you run into issues with the offline email client itself that you can't resolve - you can always just download another client and set up the IMAP account and it will sync with the webmail servers and download the mail that's still sitting on them. And the advantage of the offline client in your case is, I believe, that most of them have more of those visible functions that you're looking for. And they're usually more customizable along those lines, esp. Thunderbird.

    One last item: I see you mention Gmail and Yahoo giving you 'protection' and your not having to back up emails. I take it you mean you feel you would rather trust an email provider's own servers to store email than trusting your computer to do so. I feel the same way. Just be careful, though. We all know that using any email provider exclusively is risky. Provider problems can cause the loss of email on occasion, even with their back-ups. And if an account actually gets hacked the damage may be irreparable (emails and files deleted permanently, etc.). It's always wise to back up one's email somewhere, either using an email client (with the option of setting up a POP account, if it's only being used for offline back-up) or auto-forwarding to another email service, or both. That way all your stuff is in more than one place. Better safe than sorry. :D
     
  6. jagman

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    Thanks for the advise and the suggestions.
    After I read these post, I went Vivaldi and signed up but got no further.
    It stated they would send to my email a CODE to continue registration.
    That was yesterday, I tried to find a email for their support and sent them an email stating my problem. I did not find a "support" per se but one that looked like one, maybe. But the second day and not reply of any kind.

    Maybe Vivaldi has adapted Yahoo's no support option. But if I try to logon, it tells me "my registration is not complete"
    Too bad as I wanted to try their system.
    Any suggestions on how to try to contract them again?

    No, I don't object to paying for anything if I can find what I want. But if I had paid for Yahoo, I REALLY would be mad by now as you have it right, the user's opinion is of no concern to them.

    I also think, the big ones want to appeal to the new user for power, prestige, and the numbers, but dont care about pis... off old customers. Old customers will complain but not change, they try to adapt. For most, Yahoo has got them believing whatever they give them is "better for them anyway" and they dont doubt it. "Maybe Melissa and Yahoo really know what is best for me" (BS).
     
  7. popowich

    popowich EQ Forum Admin Staff Member

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    Hi jagman,

    I invited Vivaldi support to join and represent their service on Email Questions.
     
  8. jagman

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    thanks, yes, to ask for registration help, you have to be registered on their forum so it is what we called in the old days "catch 22"
     
  9. popowich

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    Hi jagman, here is their response:

    Please let us know if they were able to help.

    :thanks:
     
  10. popowich

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    Hi jagman,

    Was tatsuki able to help?

    How would you rate their support?

    :thanks:
     
  11. Netscape8

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    Reading your post, it seem your usage originates mostly with webmail type of service. If Yahoo constitutes you primary emails service, then you would at least consider using a proper email client, as, surely suggested by others? I suppose it is a matter of taste, but I never liked Yahoo's webmail in any incarnation. Gmail's webmail is beyond intrusive for my taste, and I would use them, at the very best, for nothing more then forward service, when using subscription from Youtube.

    If I would choose one webmail that is pleasing to my sight, that would be Hushmail. Elegant, concise, exactly how I like it, for fast email sending.

    If there would be no Hush, Mail.be and Mailoo.org are the only webmail choices I could bear to use.

    With some setup, I think you could tailor Mail.be to your liking. Not the finest authority for the webmail, as I see rarely purpose for them.

    However, you mileage and time spent with Yahoo, suggests that you are frequent user and you rely on them. Than means you have generated fair amount of emails, and surely you would like to keep them intact, email and contact wise. That is even more reason, to consider a proper email client to have secure, and more reliable way for your messages. Well, reliable is debatable, depending of you backup habits. But surely, I would consider a client and owning my mail on my own drive or network



    Sadly, this seems to be plague of our recent times. Whenever original or authentic evolution of OS/application/browser… is not reached, they automatically resort to drastic changes in GUI. I would love to confirm that it has only influenced consumer side of affairs - far from it.

    It is in our IT culture of recent updates, dare I say, since the last decade of so, that aesthetics seem to be more important then functionality. And each time, where there is no need, or no progress in substantial functional upgrade, everybody resorts to cosmetics changes. Synthetic idealism of no substance. And for almost didactic approach, well, better to silent my "praise" for now.
     
  12. popowich

    popowich EQ Forum Admin Staff Member

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    I have to mention that my option of Blue Host changed fast. Blue Host has a nice control panel that lets you manage all of your DNS, email, and web hosting associated with your VPS, but they have far too many service outages.

    I still like LuxSci too, but for the email associated with web site flavored web hosting where you have only 1 primary email account and some aliases & forwards, I'm now recommending Google Apps for Business (+ our coupon code) both because it's the least expensive option and because of the superior reliability & uptime when compared to Blue Host.
     

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