Send from thunderbird to hotmail

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  1. schsst

    schsst New Email

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    Hi.

    If I send an email to an hotmail account using thunderbird, hotmail reports it as spam.

    If I send the same email (from the same account), from webmail, hotmail receives it as non-spam.

    Why???
     


  2. Big Dan

    Big Dan EQ Forum Moderator Staff Member

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    Thunderbird and Hotmail have different spam filter setups.

    Thunderbird filters locally after download. If you keep marking it as "Not Junk" Thunderbird will learn that it's a legitimate message.
     

  3. popowich

    popowich EQ Forum Admin Staff Member

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    What domain are you sending from?

    Does it have an SPF record that says email from the domain should not be coming from your ISP's smtp relays?

    Do your ISP's smtp relays have a poor reputation?

    :welcome: to Email Questions!
     
  4. schsst

    schsst New Email

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    this is the message source sent from thunderbird (I only replaced the email addresses whit "hiddeh@"); it reports "sender-id: fail" :

    x-store-info:4r51+eLowCe79NzwdU2kRwMf1FfZT+JrstzdFG76XYG4p+n5Kt5O1NDgyG6DnTEYpkceVS/buEc7897HoAy+vRXUP3AKhDp74CpjOfLkPd8yylLK0VPldHYbwF0iZoD+s4UGAqqvWyg=
    Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; sender-id=fail (sender IP is 151.1.108.65) header.from=hidden@mail.com; dkim=none header.d=mail.com; x-hmca=fail
    X-SID-PRA: hidden@mail.com
    X-SID-Result: Fail
    X-DKIM-Result: None
    X-AUTH-Result: FAIL
    X-Message-Status: n:n
    X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTA7YT0wO0Q9MjtHRD0yO1NDTD00
    X-Message-Info: q7bX5s87Og//UscsqJoXfqWRrjzd8fmc6+iJXdUrjlCguCbG/cy+3AzjpVLYdZP7/emaDEnxc3V2KRnvsABVoTFJuAFcD5v+VEAK91CTsdIGeBY8AX0q8bPZJ7oemwmK34VLwdlshLYNbrvMoGR2cg==
    Received: from cp-out8.libero.it ([151.1.108.65]) by COL0-MC4-F24.Col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4900);
    Fri, 14 Sep 2012 08:56:41 -0700
    X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown
    X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0205.505353B8.01BE,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0
    X-libjamoibt: 1555
    Received: from mail.libero.it (151.74.120.138) by cp-out8.libero.it (8.5.133)
    id 504281E50205B317 for hidden@outlook.com; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:56:40 +0200
    Message-ID: <505353B1.6090208@mail.com>
    Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:56:33 +0200
    From: hidden <hidden@mail.com>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    To: hidden@outlook.com
    Subject: test5
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    Return-Path: hidden@mail.com
    X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Sep 2012 15:56:41.0715 (UTC) FILETIME=[883BDC30:01CD9291]
     
  5. popowich

    popowich EQ Forum Admin Staff Member

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    mail.com publishes an SPF record saying mail should only come from their mail servers:

    mail.com. 86400 IN TXT "v=spf1 ip4:213.165.64.0/23 ip4:74.208.5.64/26 ip4:74.208.122.0/26 ip4:212.227.126.128/25 ip4:212.227.15.0/25 ip4:212.227.17.0/27 ip4:74.208.4.192/26 -all"

    Technically, by "their mail servers", I mean the blocks of IP addresses above.
     
  6. schsst

    schsst New Email

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    Great!!

    I sent a message using the mail.com smtp (from thunderbird) and... it works!!!


    Thank you !!
     

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